John Ramirez used to worship the devil. He thought it brought him power and fame. And then one day, Jesus showed him something that literally scared the hell out of him. We sat down with him for this interview.
We hear of stories in which young musicians go to Hollywood, seeking fame and fortune and end up giving their souls to the devil. Are those just stories or not?
It’s real. It’s a funny thing that you bring that up because I have a chapter in my new book coming out. The chapter’s called The Devil Goes to Hollywood. And whether you live in a penthouse or you live in a ghetto, the devil is after your soul. Today we have singers like Jennifer Lopez, famous Latin singer Celia Cruz – these are people who have sold their souls to the dark side. They wanted the contract, they wanted the power, the music, the platinum albums. But in the end you have to sign over your soul in order to get that kind of music.
You got people like Jay Z, Beyonce, who even says that when she performs in these top places with thousands of people, she gets possessed by a demon called Sasha. It’s all there – they’re not hiding it anymore.
You gave your soul to the devil; why? — what was the allure for you?
For me, it was a generational thing because I came from a generation of witches and warlocks, from my father’s side. And then, for me, it had to do with controlling regions for the enemy. I was a sort of “evangelist – hit man” in the spiritual realm for the enemy to recruit people to the dark side.
So, my avenue coming in was for power, controlling neighborhoods, controlling regions – power, money and the fear factor — causing people to fear. If you go to the book of Acts, Simon the sorcerer of Samaria was well respected and feared, until Philip the evangelist came to preach the gospel.
So this was passed down to you in your generations. What was the first door to open up in your family?
At the age of seven or eight I would see my father chant and worship the devil. He would have his altar up in his room; candles, flowers to the dead, ingredients. He had a spirit called saint lazarus – which was a demon. That was his god.
We went to witchcraft church, witchcraft parties. So all of this was introduced to me as a cultural thing – “we are Hispanic, this is our culture, these are the traditions we follow.”
Those were the open doors that got my feet wet, so to speak.
Many seem to be following a cult called Santeria. What is Santeria?
Santeria is bigger than Islam. But people don’t see it that way because it’s hidden in the spirit realm. Islam is a demonic religion but you see it in the physical realm. I’ll give you a great example. In the Old Testament, the Israelites fought their enemies in the physical, the Philistines, the Jebusites, they would fight them in the physical. There was a demonic enemy that they had to destroy, with their worship of idols and their sacrifice of children. The Israelites would fight them in the physical.
For us in the New Testament, we’re fighting demons in the spiritual. Santeria goes back to the 1500’s or so, in Yoruba, which is an African religion. The worship of Santeria was the worship of saints; in reality it’s the worship of demons.
Its roots are from Africa, the Caribbean, Haiti, Cuba – all the way to America. It was a cancerous disease that infected generations and generations of people.
Today – in Miami, Santeria is legal, with the killing and sacrificing of animals.
You say it’s legal?
Yes, it’s legal in Miami. I had demon worshipers call me, late last year. They found me on Facebook, I gave them my number – I’m not afraid. I’ll take the Pepsi challenge – I got Jesus.
They called and said their religion is now legal in Miami and “what are you doing badmouthing our religion on YouTube, trying to expose us?”
I told them that I would pray for them, but their religion is demonic. “Marijuana may be legal, but it’s not good for you. Neither is your religion.”
We went into this half-hour spiritual battle over the phone. I used the scriptures to battle their demonic positions – which I knew all too well from my own past.
You write in your book about Palo Mayombe? What is Palo Mayombe?
Palo Mayombe is the most devilish cult practice on the planet earth. It makes Islam and any other religion look like Kindergarten. It is a direct line to the devil and his principalities themselves, not the low level demons at all. This is where they sell their souls to the devil. The ceremony starts are six o’clock in the evening. At 12 midnight, they present you in a room. They cut you open with a razor blade; they shed your blood. They speak demonic languages. I’m not going to get into details because it doesn’t glorify God, it doesn’t edify the body. But the blood you shed is how you sign your contract, selling your soul to the devil.
New Age teachings are so popular these days. Do you associate New Age teachings with Satan?
Absolutely, because the New Age teachings deal with a different realm of demonic forces. They deal more with territorial demons with their worship of Mother Earth, nature. So the New Age movement is very demonic. It’s a different realm of devil worshiping, dealing more with territorial demons than with principalities.
It seems that worshiping Satan is not something that most people would want to do and would shun away from. But are there ordinary things we do in life that are just as bad as overtly giving oneself over to the devil?
The devil is never going to come and say, “Hey I’m the devil, I want you to serve me.” That’s never going to happen. There’s always a catch-22 in how the devil entraps people – whether it’s through media, politics, television shows, radio, music. The bible calls the devil the “prince of the power of the air” – he controls, owns and operates in the airwaves of media, news, music, entertainment, movies.
The crap that’s on TV; the devil owns those kinds of things. So there’s more than one way that the devil can trap you, whether consciously or unconsciously. You have made a pact with the devil.
What was it that finally prompted you to receive Jesus and reject Satan?
I had other Christians talking to me, handing me tracts, or inviting me to church. I’m a very transparent person as far as what God has done in my life. I used to do witchcraft to Christians. I would try to recruit Christians to the dark side. That was my M.O. That’s what the devil wanted me to do because the power that I had was to destroy the power of the believer, to engage their minds in battle, that the Bible they were reading was a myth.
So I was excellent in that kind of battle, so that when the believer came to me, to try to preach Jesus, I could turn it around to bring the battle to their minds to the point that they could not handle it. Beyond that, I was able to bring them to the flesh – because the devil operates in the flesh. So believers couldn’t minister to me at all – honestly. But then Jesus took me to hell.
When Jesus took me to hell, in a dream on October 9th, 1999, that’s when John Ramirez gave his life to Jesus Christ.
So by Christ’s love, He actually gave you an imagery of what hell looks like?
Oh yeah. You can imagine Brother Lou, I had beautiful women in my life. I had money. I had fame. I had power. I put fear wherever I went, because I was the devil’s son. I was living in the world and I was untouchable.
In the same way I’m talking to you, I would be talking to the devil all night long. Why would I trade that for someone that I never, ever saw. I never saw Jesus. I never experienced Him. I never talked to Him in those 25 years plus.
So, the reality of going to hell…hell is a real place, just as heaven is a real place. So that was very convincing for me, because hell has different compartments. The part that I ended up in was more than enough for me, so that when I got back, I knew I had to bend my knee and say yes to Jesus Christ.
When you gave yourself to Jesus, did you endure warfare any more or less than most Christians endure?
I paraphrase it like this. Here’s the warfare that I endured when I gave my life to Christ. I gave away $100,000 worth of witchcraft paraphernalia in the trash to turn to Jesus Christ. I had things in my house that were so demonic that people would throw up in my house, because of the level of principalities that were in my house. They’d get all tight and want to run out of my apartment.
If I was able to throw all that stuff away, the demonic attack I endured for 30 days, any other Christian would have committed suicide!
What do you say to people who do not believe that Satan exists?
I tell them they’re standing in the track with the train coming. Whether they believe in the train or not, when the train hits you – you’re going to believe, but it’ll be too late.
My life has been documented through the biggest Christian channels in America, so I tell people sooner or later you’re going to know that there is a God – and His name is Jesus. Sooner or later, you’re going to know there is a devil who played you in the 25, 30, 50 years that you lived. He played you, you didn’t play him. He played you. Sooner or later, you’re going to know one or the other.
There are people who try to tell me that they’re neutral. You can be neutral all you want. I used to love people who were neutral, because they were easier to kill, put witchcraft on, diseases too. Because they wouldn’t run (to Jesus) for help. These were people that were easy for me to make my money putting spells on them. So whether you believe it or not, there is a God and a judgment. And whether you believe it or not, there is a devil after your soul. Like the Bible says, pick and choose, life or death.
I was going to ask you what do you say to people who don’t believe in God; you may have answered it already. But what do you say to people who do not believe that Jesus exists?
I always tell them, why don’t you take the Pepsi Challenge? If you’re seeking the truth, one day from a sincere heart, challenge God. “Are You for real? If You are, then show yourself. If you’re not, then I’m walking through life without You.”
Or, grab a Bible. The amazing thing about the Bible is that the author of that book is still alive. After two thousand years plus, the author is still alive. The other amazing thing about the Bible is that so many people have tried to discredit it. But most of those people ended up becoming Christians. There was one atheist, a news reporter, Lee Strobel. This man became a Christian after three years of research. So what is it about that book and the author, that lives are being touched and transformed? Grab the book and read it.
I know a man in Florida, we’re friends, Apostle Jeremiah Cummings. I ministered with him. He was actually being groomed by Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam. He was going to take over for Farrakhan, when Farrakhan passes away. Cummings locked himself in his house and read the Bible from beginning to end. He read it without eating for three days, reading it from Genesis to Revelation.
When he came out of the room, he was a Christian.
He was in such a position with Farrakhan. He locked himself in a room, no shower, no eating, reading the Bible from beginning to end and when he came out after the third day he confessed Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. He renounced Farrakhan, renounced Islam and is preaching Jesus today.
How could that happen if that book isn’t alive?
So he was resurrected after three days?
Yes, (laughs) after three days he was resurrected. I don’t know what happened in that room, but after three days from reading the word (because Jesus Himself is the Word), he came out of the room, confessing Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.
I don’t have to bring Jesus to you. I just have to bring you the book that the Author wrote and let you deal with that yourself.
You have a history of having come out of the darkness, what advice would you give anyone following Satan in the various forms of Santeria, Palo Mayombe, New Age, etc.
I tell people, whether in Germany, or wherever God has me preaching, if you go to the Post Office and you’re going to change your address for the last time, where would you want to live? Whether heaven or hell?
The funny thing, people always say heaven. Some of them don’t even know Jesus, they’re not even saved – but they say heaven. We are wired to know there is a Savior, a God. Whether we deny it or not, we’re wired that way.
I tell people – whether they are devil worshippers, into Santeria, Palo Myombe, New Age, Occult, Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism – whatever cult you’re in, I tell them, try Jesus for 30 days and see what happens.
Who would you find in your religion, who would you find that would die to take your place? Even if you were in the ghetto; and I had great friends that would go with you to fight anywhere. But when gunshots rang out, they were all running for their lives. No one stood there to take a bullet for you.
Who would die in your place?
Maybe you’re on death row. You got the jumpsuit on and they’re going to electrocute you — and someone shows up 30 seconds before, saying “I will give my life for him. Let him go free.”
Find someone in any religion, find any demon, find anyone in any religion who would do that for you.
I know only one person who showed up for you – His name is Jesus Christ. And he paid your debt in full.
Any concluding comments?
I tell people not to waste your life. Find your purpose, find your destiny, find out who you are.
There’s only one of you in this whole planet. Who are you? Do inventory. Search yourself. “There’s got to be more in my life. There has to be a God who designed me.” Buddha can’t design. Mohammed can’t design. Allah can’t design. Listen to me, there is only One Maker.
I’m not selling you a religion. I’m selling you a relationship with the One who created you, brought you into existence and has a destiny for you. What are you going to do with the life that you have left?
If you’re got 20 years left, or 20 days, they’d better make it the best time of your life. The only way it can be that way is when you connect to the Maker of heaven and earth. He has a name, and His name is Jesus Christ.
John’s book, Out of the Devil’s Cauldron, is available at Amazon.