It seems daily there are news reports that warn of impending economic collapse. Forecasts from secular sources actually mirror what some religious sources have been saying. News2morrow sat down with Christian prophetess Mena Lee Grebin on the economic forecast for 2015 and related topics leading to the end of America’s superpower status in the world.
Born and raised in Chicago, Illinois, Mena Lee has recently been given prophetic words from God about America and what’s soon to come. What sets her words apart from secular sources is that she has hope in the future.
God has often used individuals to address a nation about impending judgment. God used Jonah to speak to Nineveh. Why do you suppose God has chosen you?
I don’t know why. The Lord chooses who He wants to choose. For whatever reason He chose me to a be a voice in the wilderness during these last days. I’m by no means anyone special or anyone high up in authority, but I do know I was called in this age, season and hour. Part of my purpose is to warn the people of what’s at hand, and that the day of the Lord is near.
Have you noticed a similarity between your words and those of Rabbi Jonathan Cahn’s?
I have. I actually follow his ministry. Yes, I’ve noticed that, but Cahn isn’t actually the only person out there. There are several people out there, who’ve been given the same types of warnings; many of whom we know by name, like Jonathan Cahn, Perry Stone, Mark Biltz, Bill Salus, and even Bill Cloud. But then there are those who are not as well known on television, radio and books that have also been given similar dreams and visions and prophetic words that are only confirming about what God is about to do. It does say that “out of the mouth of two or three witnesses, His word will be established” (2 Corinthians 13:1).
What is the burning message you must tell America?
America must repent! The reason why God is bringing judgment to this country is because we’ve forgotten the God of our salvation. And to the sleeping churches that exist here in America, the reason the shaking is coming is to wake them up, because in God’s judgment we must understand that He is merciful. He does not delight in seeing that anyone should perish. And that’s what’s written in His word. And the word perish has nothing to do with physical death – it has to do with us being separated from God for eternity, as in the sense of us perishing in hell in the Lake of Fire. He does not delight in seeing that. So God does what He needs to do to wake His children up, that they could get the message, and come to repentance before it’s too late.
What do you see in the near future for America?
America is going to fall, but the whole world has to fall. In order for a one-world government, a one-world religion to rise through the antichrist, there can’t be one dominating country over another. Everyone has to be on the same level. I’ve always said if there’s no chaos, then there’s no cry for peace. The only time that someone is going to cry out for peace is when there’s chaos. When everything is in order, no one is going to cry out for a world leader. But if everything is being destroyed and chaos is at hand and mayhem is everywhere, then they are going to cry out for a savior.
America has stood as the most powerful nation in the world for decades, since World War II. And yet again we are currently a modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah or Babylon – or whichever one you want to pick – that’s what we’ve become! And so we must fall. We have to fall in order for scripture to be fulfilled, or else the Word of God would be a lie.
In what ways will America fall?
America will implode from within. I believe, and this is just my opinion, that America will implode before it explodes. I believe right now we’re already imploding. We’re destroying ourselves from within. We have a corrupted system, a corrupted government, corrupted leaders. We’ve forsaken God, we’ve kicked Him out of our schools. We’re number one in abortions, the killing and murdering of unborn babies. We’re legalizing gay marriage. We’re compromisers. We’re liars and thieves and selfish. We’re basically on a path of self-destruction.
The interesting thing is that if you throw out bible prophecy, if you were to take the bible away from this discussion, and merely look at America, we would still destroy ourselves. We’re still on a head-on collision course – period – with or without bible prophecy.
The reason why this falls into bible prophecy is because of what is predicted in Ezekiel, Daniel, Zephaniah, Zechariah, Matthew, Luke, Mark and Revelation, which describes the season of the coming of the Lord – which we are in. But even if you take the bible out of it, we’re going to destroy ourselves, just based on what we’re doing to ourselves as a nation.
We’ve lost our morale. We’ve lost our guidance. We’ve just lost our way – period! And this is no longer land of the free and home of the brave. It’s just not, and so I do believe that we’re already destroying ourselves from within. And I believe that because we are destroying ourselves from within, that is going to give our enemies opportunity to come in and destroy us from the outside as well.
We’re too busy trying to keep our inner wall together. We don’t have time to worry about what’s coming from the outside. I believe that’s what makes our country more vulnerable because we’re having so many issues within our own country, among the American people, that this just leaves us vulnerable to our enemies to come in from the outside.
So I believe it’s both ways.
I believe we will crumble from within and that will give the enemy the opportunity to come in from the outside and finish the job.
Are you referring to military invasion of the United States?
I’m not sure. It can be either way. Whatever God sees fit to allow to happen that’s what He’ll allow; whether it’s military invasion, whether it’s Russia, whether it’s ISIS, North Korea or China – it doesn’t matter how it happens, it’s going to happen.
Right, in this day and age, all it takes is one nuclear bomb and you’ll have devastation in the region. But do you see economic problems for the United States?
Yes, we’re going to have another economic collapse, and I believe it’s going to be the final one. It’ll be the last one to completely devastate and break this country permanently. We’re already not going to arise from the ashes.
In 2008, when the housing market bubble exploded in the last year that Bush was in office, I began to tell the people then that this is the beginning of the end of this country – that we would never fully recover from that. And we haven’t. No matter what the news tries to portray, or the internet tries to say, the truth of the matter is that all you have to do is walk outside your door and look up your street. Look at your neighborhood, look at your communities, look at your cities. There are no jobs, and we’re still struggling. There’s no real recovery. The housing market has gotten a little better but the truth of the matter is that we’re sitting on a bubble, a bigger bubble than before. And we see that by looking at the stock market and how it’s increased – more than ever – but there’s no foundation under it. When it pops, it will have a more devastating effect than what happened in 2008. And I absolutely know that the collapse is coming, and it’ll be the final collapse for this nation. We’re basically at a point of no return at this time.
So you’re saying that none of this end-time scenario can be avoided.
No, it can’t be avoided. Not at this point.
We’re at the point of no return.
Could you share how long that economic collapse will last.
I don’t know. I have no idea how long it’s going to last. All I know is that it’s going to happen within the next year to a year and a half, where we’ll see major changes happening to this country going into 2016. What happens after that, I have no idea. That’ll be up to God. I don’t know how long it’s going to last because now we’re talking about going into the Tribulation and I don’t plan on being here (ie, rapture). So I couldn’t tell you how long it’s going to last.
[News2morrow also reported on the Economic Collapse of Fall 2015, here.]
What can people do to prepare for this time?
The most that people can do at this point is to love the Lord your God with all of your heart, soul and mind and love your neighbor as yourself (Mark 12:29-31). The most important thing, above all things, is not just to obtain but to maintain a relationship with Jesus Christ. Jesus said, “My sheep know My voice” (John 10:27).
And it’s important that we know the voice of the Lord in this critical hour, so that He can instruct us on how to prepare and how to grow closer to Him, how to remain solid in Him.
In Hebrews chapter 12, God says that in the last days He will shake not only the heavens but the earth also (vs 26), so that only the unshakable things will remain. And we’re in that season right now. The only unshakable, constant ones are Jesus Christ, God the Father and those who built their house on the Rock. And those who remain solid in Him will weather the storm. They’ll be able to go through it. They’ll be able to stand. And so that’s the most important thing above all things – that we know Christ. Because in the end, it’s not so much do we know Him, but does He know us? That has to do with a relationship with Him and whether or not He knows us.
People can prepare all they want, they can stock up on food, they can put money aside, they can leave the country, they can try to run, whatever they want to do. But at the end of the day, God owns everything. This whole era, this whole age is coming to an end. And so your solidarity with Him – Jesus! – is your ticket into eternity.
Would it be wise for people to withdraw their bank accounts this summer? Do you suppose people’s accounts and annuities would be seized?
I don’t know and that’s why I tell people “you have to listen to the Lord for yourself.” The only thing that I would say, as far as investments is concerned, is to get out of the stock market. As far as withdrawing bank accounts, I have no input on that. You have to hear from the Lord for yourself because different areas will be impacted differently. So you have to listen to the Lord and let Him instruct you on what to do with your money.
The only thing I would say on a much broader scale, is that those people who have invested in the stock market, I would pull out. That’s my personal opinion. I would pull out of the stock market because the stock market is going to crash.
Do you believe racial tensions have exacerbated under President Obama, purposefully?
Why is he doing this?
Why? I don’t know. Call him up and ask him! (laughs) I don’t know why, but this man is doing what he was born to do. That’s all I can say. He was chosen to bring this country to its knees and finalize it. Some people will say “it started with (President Bill) Clinton.” Others say it started with (President George H.W.) Bush senior. Wherever it started – the point is that this person who is currently in office had been anointed, so to speak – if you want to put it that way, just like God anointed Nebuchadnezzar. He hardened Pharaoh’s heart. This man has been anointed to bring this country to its knees.
Part of that has to do with racial tension. I mean, what better way – he’s a black president. And there’s still racism in this country, and there’s racism all over the world. People have secret prejudices, biases, and stereotypes – a lot of us do. Most of us don’t want to admit it, even in the churches. I’ve gone into churches that have racism, not just with the blacks, but the whites, the Hispanic, the Asians – and that’s not what Christ is all about. There is no separation of lines when it comes to Jesus Christ (Colossians 3:10-11).
I believe that, where this president is concerned, he’s just basically bringing out the secrets of what’s in peoples’ hearts anyway. He’s deliberately doing a lot of things, but that’s just one of many things that he’s doing deliberately, if you ask me.
How likely is it that there won’t be a 2016 presidential election; can that be avoided?
I think it’s highly likely. Can it be avoided? I can’t tell you if it can be avoided. Again, I’m not God. He owns everything and everything is in His timing and for His purpose. So, I can’t tell you if it can be avoided or not.
There are a lot of prophetic words that people are getting – dreams and visions and words – that he’ll even have a third term. I’ve heard some people say he’ll have a third term. I’ve heard others say he’ll remain in office and I’ve heard some say that the election will be delayed. Only time will tell on whether it’ll happen. I can see it happening.
There are three reasons why he would remain in office.
1) The legal reason would be that he changed the laws at hand, as far as presidents only going two terms. For those of you who follow the news, you already understand that he’s already tried to do that twice. He’s actually tried to pass that law twice already, but it’s gotten held up in congress. It’s been kicked out basically. That’s number one, for those of you who don’t know that.
2) Another reason would be we’re at war, meaning we’ve been invaded or attacked from the outside.
3) The third would be that we’re in anarchy and civil disobedience; and martial law has been declared. This would be an internal issue where he can legally put a hold on the elections.
Considering where we’re headed at this point in our lives, could any of those three things occur that would prevent the elections in 2016 and keep him in office? Is anyone of those three scenarios, or all three of them, possible? And the answer is yes, but only time will tell.
The news seems to be so dire, yet we often hear of the Charles Dickens line “it was the best of times, it was the worst of times” applied to these days. How will it be the “best of times”?
It will be the best of times to those who have stood strong in the Lord. I do believe that we’re coming to a time when the true body of Christ is going to become the head, and not the tail any longer.
The Bible tells us in Psalms that in the time of famine that God’s children will have more than enough. And God is a God of more than enough, not just enough. He’s preparing us, being the bride of Christ, spiritually and physically for the times to come. It will be an opportunity for us to allow His light to shine. People will say “why are you not afraid?” It’ll give us the opportunity to give them our testimony and lead people into the Kingdom.
It’ll be the best of times because through the catastrophes and judgments that are coming on this nation, this will wake many people up, even many sleeping people in churches. And because of that there will be a great and massive outcry, which will bring revival to the land.
In Part Two, Mena shares more about end-time events, including this particular prophetic word for Christians. Proceed to Part Two of her interview.