The antichrist is alive and well, and the church is asleep, so says Mena Lee Grebin, in this insightful second interview with the Christian prophetess. While the first interview centered on cataclysmic events to come to America, this interview centers more on the church and its need to arise before the coming storm.
Born and raised in Chicago, Illinois, Mena Lee has recently been given prophetic words from God about the church in America and what’s soon to come. What sets her words apart from other sources is that she has hope in the future. We begin with questions about this prophetic word for the Church in America.
Transcript for Mena Lee’s prophetic word for the Church in America.
Thus sayeth the Lord: what is coming upon this nation will affect many who claim they follow Me. This is because not everyone who is a part of the church I call My bride. Many believe that they will be shielded from the judgment, when in fact they will go through it.
Not everyone who calls upon My name will enter into My kingdom. But every ten people who pray to Me and declare Me as their Lord, I only know one, says the Lord of hosts.
Thus sayeth the Lord God, I have sent you My prophets to warn you of your disobedience and pride. But you have rejected this. You have chosen to follow those who only speak smooth words of deception. And I have not sent them. They are not My prophets.
Therefore when I pass My judgments upon this nation, you will feel it. Repent, sayeth the Lord of hosts, and return to Me and seek My face. For the day of the Lord is at hand, and know that even in My judgment I am merciful.
When you say Jesus says not everyone who is a part of the church I call My bride, Could it be that this is why there is so much confusion over the rapture of the church, suggesting that the entire church is not the bride? So even though the bride is protected, the church still remains in tribulation?
You know, that’s a very sticky question. I can’t give you a yea or nay. Let me put it this way: are there people in the church that are going to be left behind? And the answer is absolutely. Jesus said in Matthew chapter seven, which you just quoted, that “not everyone who says, ‘Lord, Lord, will enter into My kingdom.’” At the end of that particular chapter, He says, He “didn’t know them” (Matt 7:21-23).
He says, “depart from Me ye workers of iniquity,” in the King James version; wickedness in some versions; evil doers in others – depending on the version you have. The point is that Jesus says, I don’t know you!
If we go to Matthew 25, in the parable of the ten virgins, the five foolish virgins who came later and knocked on the door of the marriage supper of the bridegroom, He tells them, “I don’t know you!”
We find that not everyone who is a Christian, or professing Christian, or is in the Church, will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven – period! Whether that’s the marriage supper of the Lamb during the rapture, or whether that’s the Kingdom of Heaven altogether, He says that not everyone who calls out to Him will be a part of His Kingdom.
Again, does that mean that every single Christian will make it into the rapture? Well the answer is obviously no, just based on the parable of the ten virgins.
As to why there is so much confusion in the church about the rapture, I don’t get into that subject. But I will say this. I feel that in a broader scale, it’s not so much when the rapture is going to take place, but that it’s just not being taught in the churches at all!
As far as when the rapture is going to take place – whether it’s pre, mid, or post – it’s a small issue, believe it or not. We’re a small group of believers. If you go to the majority of these churches and you begin talking about the coming of the Lord, they’ll stop you in your tracks, because they don’t believe it’s going to happen in their lifetime – period. Some don’t even believe He’ll return at all. It’s definitely not being taught – not in 90 percent of the churches.
We’re not being taught that these are the last days. We’re not being taught how to prepare. We’re not being taught that the coming of the Lord is at hand and the end of the age is near – they’re not being taught that, period.
So that’s the bigger issue. If you want to go to the next 10 percent who are understanding the season and the argument of whether it’s pre, mid, or post, well, that’s irrelevant. When you’re looking at 90 percent of the churches that don’t even teach His return – I think that’s the bigger problem here!
And the bigger confusion is the fact that the church is sound asleep – it’s the church of Laodicea mentioned in Revelation chapter three. They think that they have everything. Jesus says, “you don’t realize that you’re poor, blind, wretched and naked” before Him – that’s the bigger problem!
How would a church member know they are part of the bride?
Jesus talked about this – these are His words! – not anyone else’s. He says, “I don’t know you!” He says, “My sheep know My voice.” How do you determine the bride versus the church, or the five foolish versus the five who are wise, or the wheat versus the tares, or the sheep versus the goats — it has to do with your relationship with Jesus Christ!
He says, “if you love me, you will obey My commandments” (John 14:15) – that’s it! You will find that people do not obey the commandments of the Lord. And the greatest of all is love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, all your mind. If you will truly love God the Father – notice He says, love the Father – if you truly love the Father with all that you have, you wouldn’t do anything to intentionally hurt Him. That’s the point. So it’s about relationship, it’s about intimacy. It’s not about how many church services you go to or miss. It’s not about how much money you put in an offering plate. It’s bigger than that.
So, going back to Matthew chapter seven, what did the people say? They said, “Lord didn’t we prophesy in your name? Didn’t we cast out demons? Didn’t we perform miracles in your name?” So these people are like the people in the church. They operate in the gifts, they prophesy, they can lay hands on the sick, they can do all these things. But Jesus said, “I don’t know you!” So it’s not about the gifts, it’s not about your efforts, actions, and work. It’s about your relationship in the end.
How do you start your relationship with Christ? It’s through prayer, that’s the first step. Maintain that relationship with Him through prayer and supplication. And being still and knowing that He is God. Wait patiently upon the Lord for Him to answer you, and instruct you on what it is He wants for you, your purposes for your life. That’s what it’s about.
Jesus talks about the Great Tribulation as being the “worst time of trouble to ever befall this earth” (Matt 24:21), how close are we to that time?
We’re at the door. We’re here.
What has been the reaction of people who have listened to your message?
I couldn’t even begin to tell you. I’ve been inundated with phone calls, emails. It’s been a 95 percent positive response. People have written, called me, told me that they’ve been convicted and repentant.
Before I came on Rick Wiles’ show, I did a video – that’s how I ended up on his program. Rick actually saw my video on YouTube.
Prior to him contacting me, when I put my video out in February about the “coming storm,” I was getting phone calls from pastors, rabbis and leaders, telling me that they’ve been playing this video at their churches, bible studies, group meetings, and that it convicted them.
The video has been translated into at least three other languages, that are going into other parts of the world: Europe, Minor Asia, Africa. The word that God gave me was not my word, it was His word and He put it out there. I had been putting out videos for two years. I have a nice decent following. My videos do travel, but nothing like the word He’d given me for 2015.
So it’s all in His timing. It’s all in His control. Therefore, all honor and glory goes to Him.
Are you aware of the identities of key players in the end-time scenario: antichrist? two witnesses?
No, I don’t. As far as the two witnesses are concerned, I believe they will be either Moses, Enoch or Elijah. Some people say it’s Moses or Elijah because those were the two who appeared with Christ in the transfiguration (Matthew 17:2-3). They also match the description of the two witnesses in Revelation as far as raining down fire – Elijah did that (cp Revelation 11:3-8, 2 Kings 1:8-14).
Some people say it’s Enoch, because according to the scriptures these are the only two people that did not see death. It’s written that “Enoch was not, for God took him” (Genesis 5:24). We know that Elijah was taken up in a fiery chariot and he threw his mantle on Elisha (2 Kings 2:11-13). It could be any of those three people.
I know a small percentage of people who say it will be none of them, but I believe it’ll be at least Elijah. The bible says in the last days God will send Elijah to us (Malachi 4:5-6). People compare that with John the Baptist coming, and he was definitely a type of Elijah proclaiming the coming of the Lord. And Jesus actually quotes that scripture Himself (Matthew 11:12-14). But I do believe that scripture in Malachi is a key factor that Elijah will be one of those two people. Now as to who the other person is – whether it’s Moses or Enoch – I don’t know. Now that’s my stand on the two witnesses.
As far as the antichrist is concerned, “who is the antichrist?” – big topic today! I don’t know who the antichrist is and personally I don’t care.
It doesn’t matter who the antichrist is. The fact of the matter is that he’s coming; and he’s in the world now, I believe he’s alive and well, and in the making right now – because of the season that we’re in.But it doesn’t matter to me who he is.
Is there anything that you know, or that the Lord has shared with you, that you have yet to reveal anywhere?
There’s always stuff that I’ve not been released to reveal. My husband messes with me all the time, saying “I know there’s stuff that you’re not saying!” And it’s true!
But I only speak on the things that the Lord has released me to speak to the public. Sometimes most things have been held, then He says, “Now I want you to put that out.” And sometimes things just haven’t been released. There’s always stuff that God has given me that I have not spoken out, but in due season as He releases me to speak them, I will.
What do you say to people who may not believe what you’re saying today?
I really don’t care if people don’t believe me. But I will say this: you don’t have to believe me. I don’t want people to believe me. I’m a human. All you have to do is take up your bible. If you go to the book of Daniel, chapters 10, 11, and 12; Mark 13, Luke 21, Matthew 24, Revelation 2 and 3 (with all the churches that are listed); if you look at any of those scriptures and you look at what’s going on in the world today, you cannot stand there and say that we’re not in that season. So it’s not about the person. God will use whoever He wants. He used a mule to talk to Balaam (Numbers 22:21-34). He’ll use the rocks to cry out (Luke 19:40). It doesn’t matter about the person. You have to understand what is written in His word because in the end it is His word that will stand. It’s not the people. It’s His word that’s true.
Jesus said in Matthew 24:42-44, “If the master of the house knew the hour in which the thief was coming, he would have stayed and prepared.” He says, “so you too must keep watch” – He’s talking to us! “For you know not the day or the hour in which the son of man is coming.”
I hear people say this in the church: “He’ll be coming in as a thief in the night.” You don’t understand. He should not come upon us as a thief in the night, we should be prepared (1 Thessalonians 5:4).
We should be keeping watch. So for us, the body of Christ, we should be expecting His coming; meaning that we’re well versed in the word of God – knowing the time and the seasons and the signs that Jesus gave us Himself, to know that the coming of the Lord is at hand.
So it has nothing to do with prophets and preachers and teachers and evangelists and apostles – Joe Blow on the corner, or Suzy Q on the street. It has to do with what is written in the word of God. That’s what we have to know. What does God say? “Study to show thyself approved” (2 Timothy 2:15). Cause that’s what it’s about. Open your bibles and read. Understand the season that we’re in.